Comments on: Kutaragi Watch: Cell “defects” are just redundancy

By: Finster

Finster — Fri, 24 Jun 2005 15:22:46 +0000

Interesting. A white paper on G4 production yield published by Motorola. *That’s* objective. They’re doing the same thing that I’m criticizing Kutaragi for.

I’m not arguing whether the technique has been used before or not. But to call this redundancy is to put a positive spin on something that is essentially building for failure. See my RAID comparison above.

But since your comment was both intelligent and backed up by facts, you should get an internet cookie. You’re essentially right, but are arguing against a point I was never making.

But I digress. Obviously, there have to be some acceptable level of defects. I understand that. I realize this has been done with CPU in respect to clock speed for a long long time. But this is probably the first time that I’ve ever heard anyone say, “Look how great this is! A greater percentage of our silicon area is defective, wow! Now go buy a PS3!”

By: Factory

Factory — Fri, 24 Jun 2005 07:37:51 +0000

“Kutaragi’s “creative redefinition” of redundancy means..”
Wrong!
Although using redundant CPU cores is prolly a new thing (if only because having multiple cores on a die is a relatively new design technique) the actual technique is used for cache memory and the final cycle rating for CPUs, and has been for a long time.
In fact here is a paper on cache redundancy from 1999, http://www.iccd-conference.org/proceedings/1999/04060291.pdf

By: Finster

Finster — Thu, 23 Jun 2005 19:57:48 +0000

Aw, so your apparent luck at not getting boned by buying Sony hardware obviously invalidates everyone else who has ever had a problem.

Silly me.

By: drypulse

drypulse — Thu, 23 Jun 2005 16:52:16 +0000

hehe my ps2 has been on its side since the day xbox came out (so they can both fit where’s i wants them)

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Man Bytes Blog — Thu, 23 Jun 2005 08:57:30 +0000

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By: Finster

Finster — Wed, 22 Jun 2005 22:02:12 +0000

Congrats. Just don’t ever set the PS2 on its side, and you’ll be fine.

By: drypulse

drypulse — Wed, 22 Jun 2005 17:18:27 +0000

hmmm, my original ps1 and ps2 both work to this day… oh well, i can jump on anyways.

boo sony!!! yay beer!!!!

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