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		<title>By: Finster</title>
		<link>http://topofcool.com/blog/2005/08/17/xbox-360-pricing-announced-blogger-pissed-off/comment-page-1/#comment-80</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Finster]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Aug 2005 15:59:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I really don&#039;t care to get into a name-calling fight with you.

The logical jumps were referring to statements like &quot;Don&#039;t you realize that you&#039;re now saying the same thing I was earlier (hold out and wait for the price?) Isn&#039;t that a huge admission of your hyprocrisy?&quot;

Your whole premise was, &quot;You think this, therefore you are stupid.&quot; In fact, all you did was call everything I said, stupid. Well, why the hell are you reading and posting here so regularly?

I&#039;m not going to argue with someone who refuses to try and understand what I&#039;m actually saying. When you grow up a little bit, you can come back and post with the big boys, again. When you&#039;re ready to post something constructive, let me know by email, and I will un-ban you.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really don&#8217;t care to get into a name-calling fight with you.</p>
<p>The logical jumps were referring to statements like &#8220;Don&#8217;t you realize that you&#8217;re now saying the same thing I was earlier (hold out and wait for the price?) Isn&#8217;t that a huge admission of your hyprocrisy?&#8221;</p>
<p>Your whole premise was, &#8220;You think this, therefore you are stupid.&#8221; In fact, all you did was call everything I said, stupid. Well, why the hell are you reading and posting here so regularly?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not going to argue with someone who refuses to try and understand what I&#8217;m actually saying. When you grow up a little bit, you can come back and post with the big boys, again. When you&#8217;re ready to post something constructive, let me know by email, and I will un-ban you.</p>
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		<title>By: Robin Ward</title>
		<link>http://topofcool.com/blog/2005/08/17/xbox-360-pricing-announced-blogger-pissed-off/comment-page-1/#comment-79</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robin Ward]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Aug 2005 15:51:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[For the PS3 thing:

You said &quot;You won&#039;t be right until the PS3 comes out at the same price point as the Xbox 360.&quot;  I translated that to be &quot;Hold out for the price to see if you&#039;re right.&quot;   Sorry that you seemed to interpret that as making shit up.

About my &quot;logic jumps&quot;:

Thanks for not pointing them out.  I&#039;ll take them on faith.

About my saying &quot;you&#039;re wrong before the actual sales numbers&quot;:

Now THAT&#039;s making shit up.  When did I ever say anything about you being wrong about the Xbox winning in the marketplace?  All I said was something like &quot;Whoa buddy, there isn&#039;t even a price yet.&quot;  Thanks for trying though.

(And about &quot;doing your job:&quot;  If I were doing your performance review, I&#039;d say you exceeded expectations for being an illogical nitwit with asshole tendencies!)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the PS3 thing:</p>
<p>You said &#8220;You won&#8217;t be right until the PS3 comes out at the same price point as the Xbox 360.&#8221;  I translated that to be &#8220;Hold out for the price to see if you&#8217;re right.&#8221;   Sorry that you seemed to interpret that as making shit up.</p>
<p>About my &#8220;logic jumps&#8221;:</p>
<p>Thanks for not pointing them out.  I&#8217;ll take them on faith.</p>
<p>About my saying &#8220;you&#8217;re wrong before the actual sales numbers&#8221;:</p>
<p>Now THAT&#8217;s making shit up.  When did I ever say anything about you being wrong about the Xbox winning in the marketplace?  All I said was something like &#8220;Whoa buddy, there isn&#8217;t even a price yet.&#8221;  Thanks for trying though.</p>
<p>(And about &#8220;doing your job:&#8221;  If I were doing your performance review, I&#8217;d say you exceeded expectations for being an illogical nitwit with asshole tendencies!)</p>
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		<title>By: Finster</title>
		<link>http://topofcool.com/blog/2005/08/17/xbox-360-pricing-announced-blogger-pissed-off/comment-page-1/#comment-78</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Finster]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Aug 2005 15:23:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes, I am pompous. Anyone who writes a blog is pompous. It&#039;s our nature. Now, get over it.

And I never said anything like &quot;Hold out and wait for the price.&quot;

*rereads my own post*

Nope, nothing there even remotely like that.

You also make several logical jumps in your response here that simply are not based on anything other than your over-developed need to be told you are right.

Well, it ain&#039;t happening.

You are entitled to your opinion that my posts make &quot;crass judgment calls&quot; about things that haven&#039;t been announced. See pompous comment above. But I still maintain that I will be right. And you know what, saying I&#039;m wrong before the actual sales numbers are in is also stupid.

So, back up off it, man.

(Actually, I am secretly pleased that my posts and comments have incensed you so. I feel like I&#039;m doing my job, then.)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I am pompous. Anyone who writes a blog is pompous. It&#8217;s our nature. Now, get over it.</p>
<p>And I never said anything like &#8220;Hold out and wait for the price.&#8221;</p>
<p>*rereads my own post*</p>
<p>Nope, nothing there even remotely like that.</p>
<p>You also make several logical jumps in your response here that simply are not based on anything other than your over-developed need to be told you are right.</p>
<p>Well, it ain&#8217;t happening.</p>
<p>You are entitled to your opinion that my posts make &#8220;crass judgment calls&#8221; about things that haven&#8217;t been announced. See pompous comment above. But I still maintain that I will be right. And you know what, saying I&#8217;m wrong before the actual sales numbers are in is also stupid.</p>
<p>So, back up off it, man.</p>
<p>(Actually, I am secretly pleased that my posts and comments have incensed you so. I feel like I&#8217;m doing my job, then.)</p>
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		<title>By: Robin Ward</title>
		<link>http://topofcool.com/blog/2005/08/17/xbox-360-pricing-announced-blogger-pissed-off/comment-page-1/#comment-77</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robin Ward]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Aug 2005 15:13:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So, let me get this straight:

You think I&#039;m uninformed because I forgot about the &quot;multiple version thing.&quot;

Riiiiight.  Okay, how about you re-read the message I sent you.  You pompously declared that the Xbox was going to win this right out of the gate, based on price.  I replied saying &quot;The price isn&#039;t official yet&quot; and you called me &quot;uninformed.&quot;

Now you&#039;re saying I&#039;m &quot;still wrong&quot; because the PS3 price hasn&#039;t been announced yet.  What the hell does that have to do with anything?  Do you realize how retarded your logic is?

What exactly am I wrong about?  Being informed of rumours?

Why do you presume that I had no idea about this pricing scheme?  What orifice did you pull that out of?  Also, what does that have to do with anything?

Don&#039;t you realize that you&#039;re now saying the same thing I was earlier (hold out and wait for the price?)  Isn&#039;t that a huge admission of your hyprocrisy?

My original point is very simple, and I&#039;m sorry that simplicity equals smugness to you:  Making crass judgment calls about things that haven&#039;t been announced is stupid.

Also, calling people who don&#039;t accept rumours as absolute truth uninformed is stupid.

And finally, if the pricing scheme managed to anger you, when you originally announced that Microsoft was going to dominate based on their price point, you were obviously wrong about it.  If the rumours were right all along, as you claim, why would it anger you?  Weren&#039;t you informed?

Oh yeah, you were being stupid!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, let me get this straight:</p>
<p>You think I&#8217;m uninformed because I forgot about the &#8220;multiple version thing.&#8221;</p>
<p>Riiiiight.  Okay, how about you re-read the message I sent you.  You pompously declared that the Xbox was going to win this right out of the gate, based on price.  I replied saying &#8220;The price isn&#8217;t official yet&#8221; and you called me &#8220;uninformed.&#8221;</p>
<p>Now you&#8217;re saying I&#8217;m &#8220;still wrong&#8221; because the PS3 price hasn&#8217;t been announced yet.  What the hell does that have to do with anything?  Do you realize how retarded your logic is?</p>
<p>What exactly am I wrong about?  Being informed of rumours?</p>
<p>Why do you presume that I had no idea about this pricing scheme?  What orifice did you pull that out of?  Also, what does that have to do with anything?</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t you realize that you&#8217;re now saying the same thing I was earlier (hold out and wait for the price?)  Isn&#8217;t that a huge admission of your hyprocrisy?</p>
<p>My original point is very simple, and I&#8217;m sorry that simplicity equals smugness to you:  Making crass judgment calls about things that haven&#8217;t been announced is stupid.</p>
<p>Also, calling people who don&#8217;t accept rumours as absolute truth uninformed is stupid.</p>
<p>And finally, if the pricing scheme managed to anger you, when you originally announced that Microsoft was going to dominate based on their price point, you were obviously wrong about it.  If the rumours were right all along, as you claim, why would it anger you?  Weren&#8217;t you informed?</p>
<p>Oh yeah, you were being stupid!</p>
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		<title>By: Finster</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Finster]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Aug 2005 14:26:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Holy crap, you want a medal or a chest to pin it on?

You were still wrong. You won&#039;t be right until the PS3 comes out at the same price point as the Xbox 360. The whole point of my post was that Sony was making a big mistake by making their console more expensive. Add to that, the FACT that everyone and their dog knew that there would be an Xbox 360 at $299. Oh, and BTW, in case you forgot to read the news, THEY WERE RIGHT. Thanks for playing, though.

And the multiple version thing that had been floated so many years ago was pretty much common knowledge. It&#039;s just that everyone forgot about it, including you I guess. It should&#039;ve been obvious that I was posting my opinion that MS will win. I still hold to that opinion. Doesn&#039;t mean I like their pricing decisions. So, as far as I&#039;m concerned you&#039;re still uninformed, so I&#039;m confused by your smug attitude.

Oh, wait... aren&#039;t you Canadian? Well, that explains it then.

So, have a cookie. Do they call them cookies in Canada?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Holy crap, you want a medal or a chest to pin it on?</p>
<p>You were still wrong. You won&#8217;t be right until the PS3 comes out at the same price point as the Xbox 360. The whole point of my post was that Sony was making a big mistake by making their console more expensive. Add to that, the FACT that everyone and their dog knew that there would be an Xbox 360 at $299. Oh, and BTW, in case you forgot to read the news, THEY WERE RIGHT. Thanks for playing, though.</p>
<p>And the multiple version thing that had been floated so many years ago was pretty much common knowledge. It&#8217;s just that everyone forgot about it, including you I guess. It should&#8217;ve been obvious that I was posting my opinion that MS will win. I still hold to that opinion. Doesn&#8217;t mean I like their pricing decisions. So, as far as I&#8217;m concerned you&#8217;re still uninformed, so I&#8217;m confused by your smug attitude.</p>
<p>Oh, wait&#8230; aren&#8217;t you Canadian? Well, that explains it then.</p>
<p>So, have a cookie. Do they call them cookies in Canada?</p>
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		<title>By: Robin Ward</title>
		<link>http://topofcool.com/blog/2005/08/17/xbox-360-pricing-announced-blogger-pissed-off/comment-page-1/#comment-75</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robin Ward]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Aug 2005 13:19:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey, remember when you called me uninformed and directed me to Wikipedia when I suggested that the Xbox 360 price wasn&#039;t set in stone after you said &quot;Microsoft is going to win this one out of the gate?&quot;

That was awesome.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, remember when you called me uninformed and directed me to Wikipedia when I suggested that the Xbox 360 price wasn&#8217;t set in stone after you said &#8220;Microsoft is going to win this one out of the gate?&#8221;</p>
<p>That was awesome.</p>
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		<title>By: Joseph Valencia</title>
		<link>http://topofcool.com/blog/2005/08/17/xbox-360-pricing-announced-blogger-pissed-off/comment-page-1/#comment-74</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joseph Valencia]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Aug 2005 12:54:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If that&#039;s what the 360 will cost, I don&#039;t even want to know how much the PS3 will be.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If that&#8217;s what the 360 will cost, I don&#8217;t even want to know how much the PS3 will be.</p>
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		<title>By: Factory</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Factory]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Aug 2005 07:34:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hmm it&#039;s surprising that MS didn&#039;t include the HD in the cheapo pack, I would have expected that they would put a smaller HD in, and have the option of buying a bigger HD later. This would price segment the market but wouldn&#039;t cause any issues with lack of developer support for HDs.
  Still, I doubt there will be much of a problem with developer support as there is, IMHO the amount of ppl with HDs in nextgen machines will enough to warrant the effort needed to support in HDs in most titles.
  And also the PS3, if released at the 400-450 price point will still be more expensive than the 360.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm it&#8217;s surprising that MS didn&#8217;t include the HD in the cheapo pack, I would have expected that they would put a smaller HD in, and have the option of buying a bigger HD later. This would price segment the market but wouldn&#8217;t cause any issues with lack of developer support for HDs.<br />
  Still, I doubt there will be much of a problem with developer support as there is, IMHO the amount of ppl with HDs in nextgen machines will enough to warrant the effort needed to support in HDs in most titles.<br />
  And also the PS3, if released at the 400-450 price point will still be more expensive than the 360.</p>
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